This year marks the 25th anniversary of diplomatic relations between China and South Africa, and the 10th anniversary of the Belt and Road Initiative. The China-proposed initiative has played a crucial role in this constructive relationship. How can we evaluate the past 25 years of relations? How has the BRI helped contribute to development between the two countries? And what's in store for future bilateral cooperation? This episode features an exclusive interview with Anil Sooklal, South African ambassador at large for BRICS and Asia.