On the first day of the UN Climate Change Conference in Dubai known as COP28, delegates agreed on the operationlizaition of the loss and damage fund, to help the world's poorest and most vulnerable countries hit by climate change. At the same time, the impacts of climate change are shaping the lives of over 370 million indigenous peoples around the world, which comprises less than 5% of the world's population but protects some 80% of the planet's global biodiversity. What's the significance of the loss and damage fund to go further in tackling the surging climate threat? How can we fairly evaluate the obligations of the developed world and the rights of the Global South? To answer these questions and more, in the first part, we are joined by María Fernanda Espinosa, former president of the United Nations General Assembly. In the second half, we will talk to Ms. Hindou Oumarou Ibrahim, president of the Association for Indigenous Women and Peoples of Chad, about the story of her people and their cause in fighting climate change.