Chinese President Xi Jinping spoke on the phone Tuesday with U.S. President Joe Biden in a nearly two-hour conversation, marking their first direct communication since November. During the call, the two leaders exchanged views on bilateral ties and issues of mutual interest. What are the major takeaways from the conversation? What is the current status of China-U.S. ties, and how can the two countries better manage tensions and avoid misunderstandings or miscalculations?

Guests in this episode are professor John Gong from the University of International Business & Economics in Beijing; Warwick Powell, senior fellow at the Taihe Institute and chairman of Smart Trade Networks in Brisbane; and Jeffrey Towson, partner at TechMoat Consulting.